This is the ultimate fantasy booking game/competitive thought experiment. The goal is to create the best WrestleMania card possible – not necessarily to predict what WWE will do. That means we must play by the rules of our current reality. Everyone comes in their current (physical, emotional, psychological, etc.) state. Bottom line, if Vince McMahon can do it, we can do it.(more…)
Mayhem Mania 2020: Round 8
This. Is. Mayhem Mania!
This is the ultimate fantasy booking game/competitive thought experiment. The goal is to create the best WrestleMania card possible – not necessarily to predict what WWE will do. That means we must play by the rules of our current reality. Everyone comes in their current (physical, emotional, psychological, etc.) state. Bottom line, if Vince McMahon can do it, we can do it.
Mayhem Mania feels like it’s been flying by in the blink of an eye. We’re already into the penultimate round and on the verge of Patreon In The Bank! More on what to expect in a moment, but first let’s get down to this week’s business.
The goal is to get eight matches onto our SUPERCARD. All matches start out being created on our “undercard” where they can be tweaked, improved or outright deleted in favor of something else by our players. If a match survives three consecutive weeks without being altered in any way, it graduates to the SUPERCARD where it’s locked in. That also opens a slot on our “undercard” to create another match. Seems simple enough, but if you’ve been following along over the years you know it can get complicated.
Heading into Round 8 of Mayhem Mania, three matches had graduated to our SUPERCARD!
MAYHEM MANIA 2020 SUPERCARD!
MIA YIM & KAY LEE RAY & TEGAN NOX VS. ASUKA & KAIRI SANE & IO SHIRAI
(CREATED BY TINA KEYS)
EDGE VS. MATT RIDDLE
(CREATED BY CHAD THE SHAD)
BIANCA BELAIR VS. JAZZ
(CREATED BY TINA KEYS)
This is much more than simply “fantasy booking”. All individuals come in their current contractual, physical, emotional, etc. state. So, if Vince McMahon can do it, you can do it. However, if Vince can NOT do it that means that individual is off limits. There’s room for some flexibility if you’re creative enough, and our players usually are.
Not every individual available to Vince is actually eligible, however. A select few have earned the ire of some of our players and been banished to SPACE JAIL. That means they can not be used in Mayhem Mania, but it’s not a life sentence. Every week we spin our special prize wheel to see if one of them can escape. It happens more often than you’d think, but this week SPACE JAIL remained secure and no one escaped.
With all that fun stuff out of the way, let’s get into the moves from Round 8 of Mayhem Mania 2020.
MAYHEM MANIA 2020: ROUND 8
MOVE 1 (by Thee Rizz)
SWAP Samoa Joe for Shinsuke Nakamura
MOVE 2 (by Mad Mike)
SWAP Keith Lee and Drew McIntyre
Move 3 (by Rob Brown)
ADD Samoa Joe to WALTER vs. Keith Lee
Move 4 (by BobbyFJtown)
DELETE Finn Balor vs. Aleister Black and CREATE Akira Tozawa & KUSHIDA & “American Dragon” Daniel Bryan vs. Angel Garza & Andrade & Jorge Bolly
Move 5 (by Kyle from Pitt Fight)
ADD Finn Balor to A.J. Styles vs. Adam Cole
So, after those latest moves here are the five newly created matches following Round 8 of Mayhem Mania.
Akira Tozawa & KUSHIDA & “American Dragon” Daniel Bryan vs. Angel Garza & Andrade & Jorge Bolly
(Created by BobbyFJtown)
WALTER vs. Keith Lee vs. Samoa Joe
(Created by Rob Brown)
Big E Langston vs. Drew McIntyre
(Created by Mad Mike)
A.J. Styles vs. Adam Cole vs. Finn Balor
(Created by Kyle from Pitt Fight)
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Pete Dunne
(Created by Thee Rizz)
And here are the three matches that survived Round 8 without being altered in any way.
LIGERO VS. SAMI ZAYN
(CREATED BY ALEX KAHRS)
JOAQUIN WILDE VS. JORDAN DEVLIN VS. ISAIAH SCOTT VS. JOHN MORRISON VS. RICOCHET
(CREATED BY BILLY JOHNSON)
REVEREND D-VON & DEACON BATISTA VS. PAUL LONDON & BRIAN KENDRICK
(CREATED BY “COUNTRY HAMMER” JAMI JAMESON)
Guess what? That last match has survived three consecutive weeks without being altered in any way and it is now the FOURTH match to GRADUATE to our SUPERCARD! Congratulations to “The Country Hammer” Jami Jameson for creating such a great match. He’ll be invited back next week to receive his rewards. Those include:
1. One ticket to send an individual to SPACE JAIL (*Those in SPACE JAIL are not eligible to be used during Mayhem Mania, but have a chance to escape as you’ll see in a moment)
2. Name an entrant for the 2nd annual Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble, to be held during the Mayhem Mania preshow. (*Individuals who are entered into the Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble can still be used in another Mayhem Mania match)
3. Hand out a dose of punishment to one of next week’s players! (*I can not in good conscience allow any Patreon supporter of the Wrestling Mayhem Show to be punished during Patreon In The Bank, so this portion of the reward system is being suspended in this instance)
4. Create a new match to fill to open 8th spot on our “undercard”
Also, Mad Mike’s move for Round 8 did not survive to the end of the round. Thus, the “Alex Kahrs Rule” must be invoked. Mad Mike is invited back next week (He was coming anyway since it’s Patreon In The Bank) and he will be granted the FINAL move of the Patreon In The Bank round!
Some of you may be asking yourselves, “What in the hell is Patreon In The Bank?”
Patreon In The Bank is the dramatic, cataclysmic finale to Mayhem Mania. Every Patreon supporter of the Wrestling Mayhem Show is invited to participate. That means we’ll have many more than our standard five players for the “normal” rounds. Also, those players will receive enhanced abilities to alter matches, including adding stipulations, special referees and more!
I know you’re all wondering what awesome powers you’re being granted, so here they are!
Patreon Tier 1 (Fan Of The Show)
– Name an entrant for the Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble 2
– Nominate an individual to be the host of Mayhem Mania
– Make one “standard” move
– Add a stipulation/special referee/etc. to any “undercard” match
Patreon Tier 2 (Poppy Club)
– Name an entrant for the Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble 2
– Nominate an individual to be the host of Mayhem Mania
– Nominate a musical guest for Mayhem Mania
– Make one “standard” move (ADDED move option: SUBTRACT)
– Add a stipulation/special referee/etc. to any match on the “undercard” or SUPERCARD
Patreon Tier 3 (Pizza Club)
– Name an entrant for the Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble 2
– Nominate an individual to be the host of Mayhem Mania
– Nominate a musical guest for Mayhem Mania
– Nominate an individual to be part of the Mayhem Mania announce team
– 1 ticket to send one individual to SPACE JAIL (can be used at any time during Patreon In The Bank. *Previously incarcerated individuals ineligible to be sent back to SPACE JAIL)
– Make one “standard” move (ADDED move options: SUBTRACT and SWAP-A-STIP)
– Add a stipulation/special referee/etc. to any match on the “undercard” or SUPERCARD
– AUTO-GRADUATE any match from the “undercard” to the SUPERCARD
– Player may name a proxy to make their moves on their behalf if they are unable to attend Patreon In The Bank
Patreon Tier 4 (Manager Level, or higher)
– Name an entrant for the Mayhem Cluster Battle Rumble 2
– Nominate an individual to be the host of Mayhem Mania
– Nominate a musical guest for Mayhem Mania
– Nominate an individual to be part of the Mayhem Mania announce team
– 1 ticket to send one individual to SPACE JAIL (can be used at any time during Patreon In The Bank. *Previously incarcerated individuals ineligible to be sent back to SPACE JAIL)
– 1 court order to free one individual from SPACE JAIL (can be used at any time during Patreon In The Bank. *”No Double Jeopardy” rule applies to all parolees)
– Make one “standard” move (ADDED move options: SUBTRACT and SWAP-A-STIP)
– Add a stipulation/special referee/etc. to any match on the “undercard” or SUPERCARD
– AUTO-GRADUATE any match from the “undercard” to the SUPERCARD or UN-GRADUATE any match on the SUPERCARD back to the “undercard”
– Player may name a proxy to make their moves on their behalf if they are unable to attend Patreon In The Bank
– REALITY STONE! Break the rules of our universe and use ANYONE you wish. (*One-time use only and can be applied to only ONE individual)
So, start making your plans for your big moves during the Patreon In The Bank round of Mayhem Mania!
Thanks as always to Antonio Garza from TheWrestlingRevolution.com for the awesome match graphics he creates for us every year.
Thanks for supporting and enjoying Mayhem Mania and we’ll see you next Tuesday night on the Wrestling Mayhem Show for Patreon In The Bank!
Mayhem Mania 2020: Round 7
This. Is. Mayhem Mania!
This is the ultimate fantasy booking game/competitive thought experiment. The goal is to create the best WrestleMania card possible – not necessarily to predict what WWE will do. That means we must play by the rules of our current reality. Everyone comes in their current (physical, emotional, psychological, etc.) state. Bottom line, if Vince McMahon can do it, we can do it.(more…)
Mayhem Mania 2020: Round 6
This. Is. Mayhem Mania!
This is the ultimate fantasy booking game/competitive thought experiment. The goal is to create the best WrestleMania card possible – not necessarily to predict what WWE will do. That means we must play by the rules of our current reality. Everyone comes in their current (physical, emotional, psychological, etc.) state. Bottom line, if Vince McMahon can do it, we can do it.(more…)
Mayhem Mania 2020: Round 5
This. Is. Mayhem Mania!
This is the ultimate fantasy booking game. The goal is to create the best WrestleMania card possible – not necessarily to predict what WWE will do. That means we must play by the rules of our current reality. Everyone comes in their current (physical, emotional, psychological, etc.) state. Bottom line, if Vince McMahon can do it, we can do it.(more…)
Lucha Underground Season 4 Trailer: 80+ SCREEN GRABS & ANALYSIS!
Because “Friends Don’t Let Friends Spoil Lucha Underground”, the following article was written without the benefit of a single Google search. Instead, we relied on the extensive knowledge accumulated by members of the WMS crew who have compulsively watched and obsessed over Lucha Underground since its first episode aired on El Rey Network. Any conclusions are based on that knowledge and our own speculation. Who knows? We may have gotten a few things right, but spoilers are NOT intended.
After what feels like an eternity spent waiting, Season 4 of Lucha Underground is almost here, and we just got a look at the extended trailer.
We grabbed more than 80 screen shots from the trailer. Let’s take a look at them, and see what possible secrets we can uncover.
Let’s start with this beautiful opening shot, flying through the El Rey logo into a view of Los Angeles.
That opening shot continues, bringing us down to almost street level. First, we get a wonderful of view of this delivery truck terminal, but this is not the destination we’re interested in.
Just creeping into view on the left side of the screen is the former Union Central Cold Storage facility at the corner of South Alameda and Industrial Streets in Downtown Los Angeles.
We’re not in Boyle Heights anymore, but we’re also not far away. This building is located less than a mile west of The Temple, where Lucha Underground made its home during its first three seasons.
Let’s head inside, though this next shot could be from a different location. Someone has The Monster Matanza Cueto chained up somewhere. Remember, at the end of Season 3, Matanza was once again locked up in the basement of the old Temple in Boyle Heights, alongside Rey Mysterio Jr.
Next, we see Johnny Mundo and Taya. Johnny is doing some Indiana Jones cosplay. Is this another movie his character is filming, or did he actually leave his home dressed like this?
Johnny drops a line – rope, to be specific. Is this related to what we just saw with Matanza? There are plenty of wood structures in both scenes. Could Johnny and Taya be searching for something else? Perhaps, an ancient relic that’s best left undisturbed?
Moving on, we see a gloved hand open, reach out and receive a staff of some sort. What is this thing? It appears to be important because it appears again later in the trailer.
A wider shot reveals who is holding the staff, at least in this moment. This is a pro wrestler who works under the name Killer Kross, but I don’t know if that’s the name he’ll use on Lucha Underground. As for the person wrapped up in the roots and branches, that appears to be Mascarita Sagrada. It appears this will all be connected with his ongoing storyline with the Rabbit Tribe. If you recall, at the end of Season 3, Sagrada told the Rabbit Tribe that he was not that white rabbit, but that he could lead them to him. Is that Killer Kross? Is he the white rabbit? And what does that even mean?
We get a look at Kobra Moon, crawling around on the floor. What’s funny is that there was a nearly identical shot of her in the trailer for Season 3. Maybe it’s in her contract.
I haven’t pieced together where she is. It definitely doesn’t look like the Reptile Tribe hideout we saw in Season 3. It could be somewhere inside the new temple. After all, we haven’t seen those interiors yet. The backstage could be a lot nicer then that dirty, grimy environment at the old Temple.
Your boy, Fenix.
We switch to this shot of a creepy-looking doll being held by…Ricky Mandel. He’s still doing the Johnny Mundo cosplay, and is laughing maniacally. You know what they say about never meeting your heroes…
This is one of the best shots in the trailer. The Rabbit Tribe walking down a spinning, twisting hallway. Down the rabbit hole? Don’t do drugs, kids.
Now, we move on to what appears to be a very important scene, and probably the closest we’ve ever gotten to actual exposition in a Lucha Underground trailer. Aero Star, King Cuerno and El Dragon Azteca Jr. are having a meeting. Cuerno had gained possession of the super McGuffin gauntlet at the end of Season 3, but Aero Star is holding it in this scene.
King Cuerno: “This is too dangerous. We must go back in time.”
El Dragon Azteca Jr.: “The god’s already too strong, Cuerno.”
Aero Star then delivers a sigh of such deep disappointment that I felt all hope for the Lucha Underground universe leave my body. If a time-traveling luchador ever shoots you a look like this, you can probably be certain that there are universe and/or reality altering consequences in play.
Aero Star turns to either Cuerno or Azteca and says (I think), “Make it quick.” What in the hell is happening?!?
We move on to a shot of someone unlocking a door. I have a pretty good theory on who this is, and your first guess is probably correct.
Behind the textual reminder that the new season begins on June 13th, running liquid obscures a figure. Thanks to the power of the screen grab we can see that it’s Mariposa. It appears she’s pouring the liquid out of some sort of container while twirling one of her ponytails with her other hand. What is she up to?
Here is your “Flashdance” tribute. Any guesses on who this is? Or, better yet, what this may have to do with anything?
Switching over to the interior of a hunting lodge. Yes, this is nearly identical to King Cuerno’s hideout, which we saw at the very end of Season 3.
Catrina appears out of nowhere, presumably using her teleportation skills to get inside Cuerno’s hunting lodge. She knows how to make an entrance.
At Ultima Lucha Tres, Mil Muertes defeated Cage and Jeremiah Crane in a bloody, violent 3-way elimination match to win the gauntlet, BUT just as Muertes was starting to celebrate, King Cuerno appeared out of nowhere, attacked Muertes and Catrina and then, stole the gauntlet. Cuerno had not been seen in Lucha Undeground since Muertes defeated him at Ultima Lucha Dos.
Look to the right side of the screen grab above, where a cloth appears to be covering something. That’s approximately where the gauntlet was being kept under glass in our last look at Cuerno at the end of Season 3.
It’s safe to say that Catrina is looking to reacquire the gauntlet. After all, she seems to know more about it than most of the people who’ve gotten their hands on it. Is it still in Cuerno’s hunting lodge? Is Cuerno still there? Did Cuerno have any idea what he was stealing when he took the gauntlet from Muertes and Catrina?
A silhouette of someone. Hard to guess who.
A man in uniform. It’s hard to tell exactly who it is, but it’s probably safe to guess that this has something to do with Killshot.
Fighting! On the roof of the new temple. Judging by those pants, this is Johnny Mundo. But who is his adversary?
Drago, also on the roof of the new temple. Note, no sign of the collar and chain that was keeping him under the control of Kobra Moon and the Reptile Tribe.
Taya reaches for, and grabs something. “Wera loca” roughly translates to blonde, white girl. The nickname has been attached to Taya for some time, in Lucha Underground and beyond.
Cage, without the gauntlet. You have to wonder why he’s looking at his arm as if it’s still there.
Catrina goes to walk away, but Mil Muertes stops her.
This is one of the money shots of the trailer. Johnny Mundo, equipped with the gauntlet, with FRIGGIN’ LIGHTNING BOLTS in his DAMN EYES! We know Cuerno has the gauntlet. We know Aero Star will also get his hands on it during Season 4. How will it find its way to Mundo?
Matanza, again.
Drago, again. Worth noting that he’s wearing the collar and chain in this shot, indicating that he’s under the control of Kobra Moon at this point.
Vibora (aka “Luchasaurus”) makes his first appearance. If I had to guess, I’d say the casket holds the remains of Pindar, who met his end at the very end of Season 3.
Fighting! It’s Catrina putting a cross armbreaker on…
It’s hard to tell exactly who. We think this may be Lucha Underground newcomer Chelsea Green. What we can say with a little more certainty is that it looks like these two are gonna have a big brawl.
It appears Catrina loses this round, via getting her head bonked into a pole.
Paul London, covered in blood, with the rest of the Rabbit Tribe behind him and the mysterious staff in hand. This is where we start trying to connect the dots between the Rabbit Tribe and Killer Kross. Did they take the staff from him, or are they delivering it to him? And, why does it appear to be so important?
Taya holds that creepy doll we saw Ricky Mandel holding earlier in the trailer.
Johnny Mundo tussles with Vibora and appears to be getting the worse of it.
Not 100% sure who this is, but we think it’s Ricky Mandel.
Marty “The Moth” Martinez, banging on a wall in front of a mirror and generally just looking as crazy as possible.
The stone that Catrina has used to control Mil Muertes, but this doesn’t look like Catrina to me. Who is this?
It’s Jack Swagger! Nice to see him dressing sharp in a shirt and tie. Note the blood on his shoulder.
Aero Star, again. He’s trying to do something.
Dario Cueto, and behind him…Dario Cueto? “This will be MY new temple,” the older version of Dario says.
I have so many questions. Is this simply Dario’s own hallucination? Is it a relative? A twin brother? Even better, an EVIL twin brother? Or (this is my favorite theory), did Aero Star use time-travel skills to bring an older Dario back from the future?
Also, note the jacket on “old Dario”. It looks similar to the one worn by whoever was unlocking that door earlier in the trailer.
Roll call! Taya!
Pentagon Dark!
Ivelisse!
The Mack! What is he holding?
Kobra Moon!
We’re pretty sure this is Lucha Underground newcomer, Sonny Kiss.
Tommy Dreamer? Tommy Dreamer!
Not sure. Any guesses?
Mariposa!
Ricky Mandel, and his creepy doll.
We think this is Lucha Underground newcomer Sammy Guevara.
Joey Ryan!
Cortez Castro! Or is it Ricky Reyes?
Daga!
Not sure.
Killer Kross! There’s that staff again.
The Rabbit Tribe!
Son Of Havoc!
El Dragon Azteca Jr.!
Jeremiah Crane!
Jack Swagger!
Chelsea Green!
Killshot!
Chavo Guerrero Jr.!
Mascarita Sagrada! Note that the outfit, especially the mask, matches up with the person wrapped up in the wooden ball in that shot of Killer Kross earlier in the trailer.
PJ Black!
Aero Star!
Drago!
Marty “The Moth” Martinez!
Mil Muertes and Catrina! Note, she still has the rock here.
The Monster Matanza Cueto!
Fenix!
And finally, Johnny Mundo!
Inserted between the quick edits of all these guys and girls are some moments of in-ring action. Let’s take a look at those.
Killshot hits someone with a move while Son Of Havoc and The Mack look on. I’m guessing Killshot is teaming with them in a 6-man tag team match. Also, note the new color of the ring ropes – blue on the top and bottom, yellow in the middle.
Pentagon Dark hits Matanza with an enziguri.
Jack Swagger drops a Swagger Bomb on Son Of Havoc. But check out Killshot and someone else outside the ring. Could this be from this season’s Aztec Warfare match?
Fenix delivers a kick while competing against Pentagon Dark and…is that Mundo?
King Cuerno jumps over Marty from the top rope as Pentagon Dark looks on. You can also see the announcers desk in the background, with Matt Striker and Vampiro on the call.
Chavo Guerrero Jr. takes flight over the top rope onto Pentagon Dark. Again, there a couple more people in the background, including Kobra Moon.
Fenix takes a cutter from Daga.
Cuerno leaps from the top rope onto Johnny Mundo.
That’s where we’re at right now. If you think you have any insight on what’s happening in some of these screen grabs, feel free to comment below. Just remember…
Lucha Underground Season 4 premieres on Wednesday, June 13 on El Rey Network.
What We Just Discovered About Lucha Underground Will Blow Your Mind
During our talk, Chris gave us a big clue into one of Lucha Underground’s biggest mysteries – the seven Aztec tribes.
“You can tell what they are if you look at the seven ancient Aztec medallions.”
This is the Gift of the Gods championship, and you can quickly begin to make some assumptions based on the seven medallions.
We poured over hours of Lucha Underground episodes over the past few days, searching for these symbols (no doubt overlooking many other clues hidden in plain sight). What we discovered in that short amount of time stunnedus.
If you’re not up to speed on your Lucha Underground Season 3 viewing, consider this a SPOILER ALERT. Otherwise, what follows is nothing more than some highly informed speculation. We have no knowledge of the actual events and episodes that have yet to air. (more…)
Wrestling Mayhem Show 392: Jushin Thunder Liger Quinceanera
This week on Wrestling Mayhem Show 392, we have our cast featuring Eamon (@eamon2please) Mike (@madmike4883) and Mike Sorg (@sorgatron). On this weeks show:
We see if Justin Plummer can bodyslam Shane Taylor.
We discuss wrestling storytelling and progression.
We discuss what we want to see from the current main TNA storyline.
We talk about what we want to see at the Hell In A Cell PPV.
Bo Diggity leaves voicemails to the show.
We talk about the human side of professional wrestlers.
Rizz interviews Andrews and Dunn at the IWC show! Rizz also tells us about that show and what he thought about the program.
We have the indy minute! We talk about last weeks ACW, IWC, NWA shows and the upcoming ROH show this weekend.
We remember the worst moments at WrestleMania!
We have a roundtable discussion on a variety of wrestling related topics, and let the world know what we learned from wrestling!
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Wrestling Mayhem Show 237: Mac N Cheese
Sorg, DJLunchbox, and Mad Mike are in effect, and later joined again by our man Rizz! We do out best to cover the Indy Minute with Ring of Honor, North East Wrestling, and International Wrestling Cartel news. then we get into the latest Matt Hardy antics, Hogan’s usefulness, and some great conversations from our fanmails.
This is Episode 237 for Tuesday, September 21, 2010. You can get the episode here on Talkshoe, Blip.tvsubscribe to the audioor video versions iTunes, look us up on Youtube, Roku, or Boxee, and as always, stay tuned to www.wrestlingmayhemshow.comfor the latest! The Wrestling Mayhem Show is recorded live and can be heard/viewed from 8 PM to 10 PM Eastern on Talkshoe.comand Ustream.tv. Let us know what you think of the show, and your thoughts on the wrestling world by emailing us at [email protected]! Don’t forget you can find links related to the show’s news stories and more at our Delicious Links Page for Episode 237!
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