WMS Wrap Up 1/7/19: CatMania

It’s a new year, and an attempt at a new spin on your Monday Night Post WWE Raw wrestling chat. We’re discussing the good since we last chatted in pro wrestilng, the show that was, including the return of “Immortal” Hulk Hogan, too much Seth Rollins, and what Vince McMahon likes.


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Wrestling Mayhem Show 611: Deep Into MayhemMania Season


We couldn’t have planned this week’s in-studio guest any better if we tried.  Marcus Mann joins us on the big purple couch to talk about the road to WrestleMania!  He’s joined by Rob, Larry, Sorg, Mad Mike, and Mainstream Matt as they talk about:

  • We’ve got the RYSE Wrestling Head of Talent Relations, Marcus Mann, on the sofa this week!
  • Sorg was in Florida over the weekend, and had a chance to visit the Hulk Hogan shop down there.
  • Marcus Mann is sharing some updates about what they’re up to down at RYSE Wrestling. Want to check it out? Head over to www.indywrestling.us
  • We’ll be getting to some Fastlane and WrestleMania talk shortly. But first – John Cena has a Road to WrestleMania and Marcus couldn’t be happier.
  • John Cena broke RAW.
  • We’re breaking down an interesting comparison between John Cena, Hulk Hogan, and Chris Jericho.
  • It’s the wrestler’s responsibility to take that #1 spot. If someone isn’t taking that spot, then it really belongs to the guy at the top. (In this case John Cena.)
  • Vince McMahon will not give anyone a Jr. suffix because he feels it is demeaning.
  • Sorg apparently ran into Paige at an ICP show last week?
  • Fastlane happened this weekend, and we’ve got a clearer picture about what we’ll be seeing at WrestleMania.
  • We found out Marcus Mann is apparently a huge Brock Lesnar fan, in addition to being a John Cena fan…and a Chris Jericho fan…
  • We’re taking a trip down memory lane…to Summer Slam 2002.
  • You think Brock Lesnar could kill a person – watch him punch Braun Strowman in the face. He’s the closest thing we can get to a Bruiser Brody.
  • Are we setting ourselves up for disappointment by setting our expectations too high for WrestleMania?
  • Thanks to The Bar we can no longer take discussions regarding setting the bar seriously.
  • When ranking WrestleMania events, which one is the “average” by which you should set your expectations by?
  • It’s time for MayhemMania! Let’s see what havoc we can wreak this week!
  • It’s getting near time for Patreon in the Bank. Are you a supporter of the show so you can get in on it https://www.patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow
  • What did YOU learn in wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 606: Darkwing Spud

It’s the second week of Mayhem Mania!  Just for the occasion, we’ve got a direct connection to Yinza the Pittsburgh Luchador with Dave Fedor joining us in studio.  Of course we’ve got our usual crew of Sorg, Matt, Larry, Mad Mike, and Rizz talking this week in wrestling, including:

  • So, Coach is back, and apparently Booker T isn’t happy about it.
  • #SadTozawa
  • 205 Live going back to a Cruiserweight Classic model? We’re digging it.
  • Will we be seeing a Neville return?
  • We’re tracing down the name history of Drake Mallard. Let’s just say Darkwing Spud is our new favorite thing.
  • WWE’s new cutest couple? Braun Strowman and Alexa Bliss! #MotherOfStrowmans
  • We’re breaking down the comparison between scripted content and off-the-cuff reality content with WWE.
  • Elias swings the crowd almost as well as Vince McMahon. #LikeableHeel
  • It’s time for this week’s MayhemMania!
  • What did YOU learn in wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 599: Earth 2 Daniel Bryan

Marcus Mann can’t seem to get enough of the mayhem.  He made the trek back to the studio to join Sorg, Bobby F J-Town and Mad Mike for this week’s episode.  We had a lot to chat about, including:

  • 205 Live is going to do house shows starting in January?
  • On paper 205 Live is the best indy show ever. We need to see how it is in reality.
  • Marcus Mann is educating us on the difference of a 205 Live show on TV versus live and how much better high flyers are live.
  • Someone may have just compared Enzo to Eddie Guerrero.
  • Marcus Mann is educating Sorg on Noam Dar and wrestling outside the US.
  • We’re reminiscing on that time when Rizz interviewed Pete Dunne.
  • Just because we’re not seeing people from CWC and Mae Young Classic popping up yet doesn’t mean WWE lost their numbers. Just wait.
  • Did you see DJ Z at a show – – – in a library?
  • Jim Johnston was released from the WWE. We’re sharing some thoughts.
  • Since we’ve got Marcus Mann on the sofa, we’re talking about the recent RYSE anniversary show.
  • A Power Point presentation is over on 205 Live.
  • This week’s Big Question: Which superstar had the best potential and would have been a bigger WWE star if Vince McMahon hadn’t gotten in the way?
  • The one that got away – that don’t know they got away.
  • What did YOU learn in wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 587: Yachts, Yachts, Yachts, Yachts, Yachts

We’ve got Jinx on this week as we watch the final match of the Mae Young Classic. She joins Billy, Chad, Rob, Mad Mike, and Sorg as they talk about the Mae Young Classic and some of the other crazy stuff that happened this week in wrestling:WMS

  • We have Jinx talking some Mae Young Classic with us. Seemed better than having dudes talk ladies.
  • We’ve got some thumbs-up for the Mae Young Classic as Jinx shares her thoughts as a wrestler.
  • We had some concerns about the Mae Young Classic contestants, but it turned out really well.
  • We’re digging the WWE partnerships giving us access to some great talent like WWE UK with Progress and ICW.
  • Has NXT outgrown its purpose as WWE developmental to the point we need new developmental options?
  • Day one is h?
  • The Bankruptcy Court of Owls announced a streaming service for $7.99?
  • So, TNA accidentlally released their entire library for free?
  • Apparently Jinx looks for “TNA” on the deep dark web. Is she talking TNA or T-N-A?
  • #TNAnonymous
  • “Where on Shawn Michaels” did they steal your smile?”
  • Sometimes you need a good stopping point.
  • Pro Wrestling is basically human trafficking.
  • Pro Wrestling is like Pokemon – You gotta catch ‘em all.
  • This week’s Big Question: What is your favorite McMahon segment?
  • What did YOU learn in wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 576: Long Time Host, First Time Listener

We’ve got Larry, Dudders, Chad the Shad and Mad Mike in studio for Wrestling Mayhem Show 576.  And, if you pay attention to this week’s host, you’ll notice we’ve replaced Sorg with our very own Mayhem Mania correspondent and friend in the mainstream media – Matt.  Our wrestling-loving crew is talking about what’s happening in pro wrestling this week, including: WMS

  • Sorg looks a little different this week…
  • What happened this week in wrestling? We share our thoughts!
  • We have some mixed thoughts on Money in the Bank. And, some thoughts from Dudders representing a ladies’ opinion on ladies.
  • Is Dudders wo-mansplaining Money in the Bank?
  • As the FIRST Women’s Money in the Bank, did WWE do it right?
  • How do you lead a Women’s Revolution and have a dude grab the briefcase in your FIRST women’s Money in the Bank?
  • We’ve moved on from Money in the Bank to the Smackdown Live redo for the women’s match redo.
  • Does WWE not understand that the rules have changed with regard to what’s acceptable for women’s wrestling?
  • Bayley was a great womens wrestling example, because she was a real woman – not someone stylized to be objectified.
  • Maria made a return to the WWE, and was celebrated by objectified photos.
  • Should Carmella’s reaction to Ellsworth retrieving the Money in the Bank briefcase have been more intense about a guy stepping in?
  • We’re thinking Carmella will be throwing Ellsworth into the fray and taking the opportunity to get the Money in the Bank.
  • The Carmella and Ellsworth spot was perfect – just not for the timing.
  • In case you missed it, Enzo and Big Cass broke up, this week.
  • We feel that WWE does not believe in real friendship.
  • Vince McMahon’s heart is as black as coal.
  • We love us some Corey Graves.
  • Thanks Tina for the Corey Graves puppet master angle with Big Cass.
  • Did you know David Otunga is filming a movie?
  • Sharing some thoughts on who would make good WWE commentators.
  • We got to see The Revival, guys!
  • Mad Mike is pitching an Enzo v. Cass match for Summer Slam.
  • This week’s Big Question: Who will dethrone Asuka’s reign?
  • We’re calling it now: Asuka vacates the title and winner of the Mae Young Classic picks it up.
  • Can we get Ronda Rousey v Asuka?
  • Asuka is the Braun Strowman of the NXT Women’s Division.
  • We’ve moved on to some Roman Reigns match/competitor discussion. We have some thoughts.
  • Matt is ruining Sorg’s ass groove.
  • It’s a Sorgabration!
  • What did YOU learn from wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 568: Cast A McMahon

 

There were some, let’s say interesting, things in wrestling this week! Sorg, Chad the Shad, Mad Mike, and Rizz for Wrestling Mayhem Show 568. Of course, we talked what’s happening in the world of wrestling this week, including:

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  • Payback is this weekend. And, we’re talking about what a House of Horrors match consists of.
  • Are rematch clauses still a thing in the WWE?
  • Chad is petitioning for a Champions Choice for rematch options.
  • Chad is sharing his viewing preparation for the RAW Wrap Up with Sorg and Mad Mike. #Entertainment
  • Curtis Axel is apparently still topical for the Mayhem Show.
  • We’re sharing some thoughts on the Samoa Joe v Seth Rollins match.
  • Alexa Bliss and Bayley has us looking at the innocence of Bayley as a character.
  • What happens to Kevin Owens if Jericho wins? We’re sharing some thoughts.
  • WWE PPVs are just super shows for the brands thank to the WWE Network. It’s different booking than a decade ago.
  • We’re having some interesting conversation regarding the impact the WWE Network has had on viewing trends.
  • Is the WWE looking for a way to do their own break for the Broken Hardy gimmick?
  • We can see the WWE lawyers in action with the Broken Hardy gimmick development each week.
  • What makes a good heel turn villain theme for a video game gimmick?
  • 205 Live lost Tajiri, and we haz a sad.
  • It’s time for this week’s Big Question: Vince McMahon is getting a bio picture. Who do you cast? #CastAMcMahon
  • There was Dumpster Match this week?
  • Sin Cara has a new look. #Shiny
  • What’s happening with SmackDown Live booking? New things! That’s what!
  • What did YOU learn from wrestling this week?

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Wrestling Mayhem Show 552: WWE White House

We’ve got a full house for Wrestling Mayhem Show 552! It’s the start of 2017, and we’re doing our first show in the recently renovated studio! And, it’s a full house with BC Steele, Sorg, Mutilator Larry, Mad Mike, and Rizz!wms

- We’re celebrating 11 years of wrestling and podcasting!
– And, we’re celebrating the return of Mad Mike. We’ve also got that BC Steele guy in studio.
– We’re also looking into logistics of transporting large items – as in The Great Khali large….
– Sorg is excited about Wrestle Kingdom – and is sharing some thoughts about future WWE opportunities.
– AwesomeCast cross-over: Google will translate webpages so you know what you’re doing to get Wrestle Kingdom.
– There’s a Bullet Club B-Team?!?!
– Only on Rizz Plays Games will The Great Khali win the Royal Rumble every year.
– We’re talking about Wildcard Finals beating RAW for ratings.
– Angry Dolph Ziggler and Angry Old Man Cena are Sorg’s favorites at the moment.
– Okay Mayhem Nation – We’re in search of R-Truth music videos. Send us some of your favorites!
– Larry is weighing in on 205 Live – he thinks it may be his favorite WWE brand yet!
– Sorg is sharing his thoughts about posting Super Indy as a Benny Hill video? Hmmmm…
– It’s time for the Big Question: If you had multiple gimmicks and could switch the timeline, what would they be? (We’re currently discussing Stunning Steve Austin and Stone Cold Steve Austin character swaps…)
– We’re discussing WWE and Vince McMahon’s trip to the White House and spinning off other celebs as President.
– What did you learn from wrestling this week?

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WWE RAW Wrap Up: #RAWAfterMania

WWE NXT is the peanut butter in my WWE RAW chocolate and it’s great!  Enzo and Cass debut to an amazing crowd, the Vaudevillains are going to debut on Smackdown, we try to understand Shane McMahon getting WWE RAW tonight from Vince McMahon, Primo and Epico are coming back and smelling flowers, the death of the Diva era without Brie and Niki Bella, Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynn, the lack of Triple H, Brock Lesnar, or Dean Ambrose, and the amazing main event for Sassy Roman Reigns championship between AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Kevin Owns, and Cesaro!

 

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“Daddy, Who Is That?” Teaching The Next Generation About Shane McMahon

I’m sitting on my couch with my wife, watching the beginning of Raw. My 6-year-old son is playing with his massive army of WWE action figures on the floor. It’s a typical Monday night, and then…

Out of nowhere, here comes Shane McMahon, roaring back onto WWE television. My wife and I are just as shocked as you are. The crowd is going wild. Crazy. Insane. They are so happy. The energy and excitement is palpable, even on television. Then, my son speaks.

“Daddy, who is that?”

It’s cold, hard slap of reality. A generation of fans who were watching last Monday night had no idea who that man with the gray hair sporting a pair of Air Jordans is.

Has it really been that long since Shane McMahon graced us with his presence? Yes. It’s been 6 long years since he left WWE, and nearly 7 years since his last match.

My son isn’t alone. There must be countless other young fans, perhaps as old as 10 or 11 years old, just like him. They will never know Shane McMahon like I do. I lived Shane McMahon.

There are a lot of fans just like me. Wrestling arrived in our consciousness during the WWF’s glory days of the 1980’s and those first few WrestleManias. We came of age during The Monday Night War, but some of us moved on after it ended. Last Monday night, I was getting messages from friends who haven’t said a word to me about WWE in years. They still remember Shane McMahon.

In the days since Shane McMahon’s return, A number of former WWE employees and professional wrestling “insiders” seem to be struggling to understand why so many fans are so happy to see him again.

To me, it’s simple. Shane McMahon always represented us. Sure, he was the bratty, entitled son of the owner of the company, but there was something more at play. It may sound crazy, but it always felt to me like he represented what would happen to one of us if we were plucked from obscurity and inserted into a very prominant place in the WWE Universe.

Source: WWE.com

Source: WWE.com

If you watch closely, you can spot a very young Shane McMahon in the role of referee or a backstage official years before anyone knew his name. He made his formal television debut in 1998 as part of the storyline involving Mike Tyson heading into WrestleMania XIV. Later, he took on the role of a highly-caffeinated play-by-play announcer on Sunday Night Heat. Shane was an explosion of nervous energy, but was also strangely endearing in a Don West sort of way with his “Yeah Yeah Yeah!” and “Go Go Go Go!” style.

Source: WWE.com

Source: WWE.com

When it was time for him to step into a more meaningful role, he knocked it out of the park. He betrayed his father when he re-signed the formerly fired “Stone Cold” Steve Austin. After revealing his involvement, he delivered a heart-wrenching promo about how nothing he did as a child was ever good enough for his famous father. I’d imagine that was a feeling shared by many young fans who were watching at the time. Whether it was by design or not, Shane drew us in by making us believe we weren’t all that different from him.

Since this is professional wrestling, Shane soon turned on Austin and realigned with his father. No one much cared, because it led to a new dynamic and fun father-son moments. Does it seem so far-fetched to imagine that there were a lot of young men and teenagers watching around this time who would’ve cherished the chance to spend this kind of quality time with their own dad? Shane was living the dream, and we were along for the ride.

Like most us, Shane wasn’t trained to be a wrestler, but he tried. Did he ever try! In just his second match, he won the European Title in a tag team match. He held the championship for nearly four months before discarding it for whatever reason. The point is, Shane’s earliest matches weren’t much to write home about. That is, until he ran into Test at SummerSlam 1999.

In a “Love Her Or Leave Her Greenwich Street Fight”, Shane and Test literally fought over the fate of a young, innocent Stephanie McMahon. The results were spectacular, and the bar for Shane’s matches was forever raised. He seemed more than willing to continue trying to outdo himself.

Shane McMahon’s most significant contribution to professional wrestling history probably came on the final night of the Monday Night War. Everyone knows this one. Vince McMahon, already scheduled to face his son at WrestleMania for prior indiscretions, reveals he has purchased WCW. His gloating backfires, however, as Shane shows up on the site of the final episode of Nitro and announces it is actually he who is the new owner of WCW.

Less than a week later, Shane and Vince McMahon shared another special father-son moment, beating the hell out of one another at WrestleMania X-7. The match exceeded almost everyone’s expectations.

It’s also a rare beacon of light in the history of long-term storytelling in WWE. Multiple storylines reached their climax amid heroic moments for Shane, Trish Stratus, Mick Foley and even Linda McMahon.

A few months later, Shane McMahon was back to face Kurt Angle at King Of The Ring 2001. It was brutal. It was ugly. It was messy. Both men walked away in pretty bad shape, but they had earned a ton of respect from every fan who was watching. This match is a testament to the toughness of both of them.

The less said about The Invasion the better, though it is worth pointing out that it resulted in Shane being written off WWE television at the end of 2001. This was the peak. Shane returned several times over the years that followed, (in 2003, 2006-07 and 2009) and delivered some fun and entertaining moments, but never anything quite as wild and reckless as what he’d previously been known for. Perhaps it’s better that way.

So, now Shane McMahon is back. Fans gave him a hero’s welcome, and he’s training for an impossible match – against the Undertaker inside Hell In A Cell at WrestleMania. Shane is probably training as you read this, and he looks to be getting into pretty good shape.

Just try not to do anything too crazy at WrestleMania. OK, Shane?

Aw, who am I kidding?

How about one more time off the top of the Titantron, just for old times’ sake?